Angry Opponents ???
Kevin Bryant
On the very warm summer morning of August 8, 2009 the less than illustrious and not so good Rev Emanuel Cleaver decided to give what turned out to be nothing more than lip service to some of the people he represented. I attended this farce of a meeting:
LEE'S SUMMIT, MO - A normally quiet monthly chat session with constituents turned into a overflow crowd as hundreds of people on both sides of the health care debate gathered at a Lee's Summit coffee shop to meet with U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver on Saturday morning.Cleaver did not take questions from the crowd assembled at JP Coffee, instead meeting privately with about 75 people. The line of people stretched around the building and for several blocks, with many in the crowd holding signs both for and against President Barack Obama's health care proposals.There were many vocal arguments from both sides of the debate, but the crowd was generally sedate in comparison to similar gatherings in other states where there were loud disruptions from angry opponents.In a statement, the Democratic congressman praised the constituents for discussing the issue in a civil manner."Our district showed that we can disagree civilly in middle America," said Cleaver.
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/politics/wdaf-story-cleaver-coffee-crowd-health-080809,0,5318886.story
Is this what we can expect from every democrat during this congressional break? Let me tell you what is missing from this article. The total amount that showed up for this pretense of a meeting that actually supported a government health care plan was less than ¼ of the total crowd.
Even though I wasn’t carrying a sign or loudly voicing my own opposition, I still had the “angry left mob” in my face with cameras and signs trying to get footage of myself and others who oppose Obama, Reid and Pelosi’s idea of health care reform provoking them. I do agree with the article that the crowd was peaceful and that was only because the “angry left mob” was unable to provoke any violent acts or explicit vulgar language responses. Believe me when I say it took a lot of personal restraint not to slap a few of those cameras out of my face.
Now, the same so-called reverend who stated how hard it is to oppose Obama because and I quote: “He is more popular than God” did show up, half the people in this tiny coffee shop that has about enough standing room for about 75 people when you remove the tables, was run out because he had to get his staff and entourage inside. From what I was told by security, almost all that were told they would have to leave were opponents of government health care.
A few minutes after the whole thing started, it was quite aware that Cleaver had no intention of allowing the hundreds outside to listen to what he was saying even though there is an outside PA system already in place and is used very night for people who wish to sit out on the patio and drink wine, coffee, tea and other assorted beverages JP’s offers. How do I know all this about JP’s coffee shop? I frequent the place on average at least once a week and usually spend a minimum of an hour there on each visit. They have EXCELLENT coffee.
So, little to no opponents of the administration’s health care plan were allowed inside. No one outside was allowed to listen. The only mob like antics came from those who support the plan. I forgot to add, those 75 or so that he met with afterwards to discuss issues were the same ones initially allowed inside so little to opposition would be displayed.
This was no meeting. This was nothing more than a staged Cleaver media moment. Since they can’t shut conservatives up, they will shut us out instead.
Kevin Bryant
On the very warm summer morning of August 8, 2009 the less than illustrious and not so good Rev Emanuel Cleaver decided to give what turned out to be nothing more than lip service to some of the people he represented. I attended this farce of a meeting:
LEE'S SUMMIT, MO - A normally quiet monthly chat session with constituents turned into a overflow crowd as hundreds of people on both sides of the health care debate gathered at a Lee's Summit coffee shop to meet with U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver on Saturday morning.Cleaver did not take questions from the crowd assembled at JP Coffee, instead meeting privately with about 75 people. The line of people stretched around the building and for several blocks, with many in the crowd holding signs both for and against President Barack Obama's health care proposals.There were many vocal arguments from both sides of the debate, but the crowd was generally sedate in comparison to similar gatherings in other states where there were loud disruptions from angry opponents.In a statement, the Democratic congressman praised the constituents for discussing the issue in a civil manner."Our district showed that we can disagree civilly in middle America," said Cleaver.
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/politics/wdaf-story-cleaver-coffee-crowd-health-080809,0,5318886.story
Is this what we can expect from every democrat during this congressional break? Let me tell you what is missing from this article. The total amount that showed up for this pretense of a meeting that actually supported a government health care plan was less than ¼ of the total crowd.
Even though I wasn’t carrying a sign or loudly voicing my own opposition, I still had the “angry left mob” in my face with cameras and signs trying to get footage of myself and others who oppose Obama, Reid and Pelosi’s idea of health care reform provoking them. I do agree with the article that the crowd was peaceful and that was only because the “angry left mob” was unable to provoke any violent acts or explicit vulgar language responses. Believe me when I say it took a lot of personal restraint not to slap a few of those cameras out of my face.
Now, the same so-called reverend who stated how hard it is to oppose Obama because and I quote: “He is more popular than God” did show up, half the people in this tiny coffee shop that has about enough standing room for about 75 people when you remove the tables, was run out because he had to get his staff and entourage inside. From what I was told by security, almost all that were told they would have to leave were opponents of government health care.
A few minutes after the whole thing started, it was quite aware that Cleaver had no intention of allowing the hundreds outside to listen to what he was saying even though there is an outside PA system already in place and is used very night for people who wish to sit out on the patio and drink wine, coffee, tea and other assorted beverages JP’s offers. How do I know all this about JP’s coffee shop? I frequent the place on average at least once a week and usually spend a minimum of an hour there on each visit. They have EXCELLENT coffee.
So, little to no opponents of the administration’s health care plan were allowed inside. No one outside was allowed to listen. The only mob like antics came from those who support the plan. I forgot to add, those 75 or so that he met with afterwards to discuss issues were the same ones initially allowed inside so little to opposition would be displayed.
This was no meeting. This was nothing more than a staged Cleaver media moment. Since they can’t shut conservatives up, they will shut us out instead.
3 comments:
It’s funny we hear Republicans say that they do not want “faceless bureaucrats” making medical decisions but they have no problem with “private sector” “faceless bureaucrats” daily declining medical coverage and financially ruining good hard working people. And who says that the “private sector” is always right, do we forget failures like Long-Term Capital, WorldCom, Global Crossing, Enron, Tyco, AIG and Lehman Brothers. Of course the federal government will destroy heathcare by getting involved, Oh but wait, Medicare and Medicaid and our military men and women and the Senate and Congress get the best heathcare in the world, and oh, that’s right, its run by our federal government. I can understand why some may think that the federal government will fail, if you look at the past eight years as a current history, with failures like the financial meltdown and Katrina but the facts is they can and if we support them they will succeed.
How does shouting down to stop the conversation of the healthcare debate at town hall meetings, endears them to anyone. Especially when the organizations that are telling them where to go and what to do and say are Republicans political operatives, not real grassroots. How does shouting someone down or chasing them out like a lynch mob advanced the debate, it does not. So I think the American people will see through all of this and know, like the teabagger, the birthers, these lynch mobs types are just the same, people who have to resort to these tactics because they have no leadership to articulate what they real want. It’s easy to pickup a bus load of people who hate, and that’s all I been seeing, they hate and can’t debate. Too bad.
I really thought about not printing your post Paul, but I decided to allow it, so the public may see your one sided view, I can debate, and so can the politicians on the Republican side, but the Democrats have cut them out of all meetings on the formation of the Health-care Reform Act. To say we don't have ideas is false. You say the government has a clear track record of running things well, EXCEPT when Bush was in office.
If this is true, maybe you can tell us why the Democratically controlled Congress hasn't properly funded Medicare, Medicaid, and social security, the very programs THEY started? Maybe you should ask a senior if they are satisfied with Medicare, rather than just assume they are. I haven't read a comment yet from a democrat that doesn't use name calling (teabaggers, birthers, etc)or to blame Geo Bush for everything. Geo Bush left office with a 430 billion deficit, exactly how has Obama and company improved that? Don't claim that this money had to be spent to fix what Bush left, because nobody buys that anymore except by people either who are brainwashed, blind or both. Does health care need tpo be reformed? Sure it does. But not this way, not a program dictated by one party. The Whitehouse itself is now lying to the public about the healthcare reform act. I have read the entire bill (all 1000 pages), have you? For that matter how many senators and representatives have? Somehow they think that is too time consuming, although this is the very job they were hired to do!...Oh and the congress and senate have the best health care....lol........oif course they do, but we can't have it! Do you research anything, or just shoot your mouth off?
From the author this: Conservatives have no issues with reforming health care. Many including myself believe that it needs to actually happen. What we are against is government forcing their control over our health care choices. As things stand now, you don't like your health insurance, you change it at your discretion. I personally like mine and do not want it changed nor do I want more government regulations over it. In one aspect, doctors like medicare and medicaid because they have an easier time getting treatments approved. What many do not like about medicare and medicaid is that they are paid so much less than what private insurance pays them for the same procedures. Yes, a government health care system would be nice, but every proposal brought forth to date by the democrats does nothing to address the real problems of having private insurance. Conservatives are the ones waiting for a real discussion so as to address real concerns, not liberals
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